Pa. and N.J. want data centers to guarantee their own power supply

Four US governors from Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Maryland, and Virginia have proposed a plan that would allow data centers to generate their own power and sell it back to the grid, in exchange for faster approval processes.

Under the proposal, data centers can build their own energy generators, which would be added to the PJM's regional grid. The generators would need to produce at least as much power as they consume, with the excess being fed into the grid. This plan aims to bolster the reliability of the grid and generate revenue for PJM.

The proposal is a voluntary and heavily incentivized path for the data center industry, according to Pamela Quinlan, a principal at GQS New Energy Strategies. The idea has generated interest among governors who are eager for data center expansion in their states, despite being critical of PJM's operations.

Data centers require constant power, and even brief outages can result in significant revenue losses. The fast-track proposal would allow data centers to invest in lucrative projects with minimal regulatory hurdles.

The plan relies on the states to expedite permitting and siting for the data operations. Each state can issue directives to expedite projects that involve building energy lines or substations, without requiring them to be located directly at the data center site. The generators would need to meet the same reliability standards as PJM's existing power sources.

The proposal includes a measure to combat rising bills for ratepayers by extending or maintaining the current capacity charge. This would shield customers from price spikes as data centers come online, according to Abraham Silverman, an energy researcher at Johns Hopkins University's Ralph O'Connor Sustainable Energy Institute.

However, experts have raised concerns about the plan, including how states will review and decide to fast-track projects, and whether it would short-circuit local permitting processes. Jacob Finkel, an aide to Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro, argued that the plan is a step in the right direction, but acknowledged that more details are needed.

The proposal faces scrutiny from experts who argue that it prioritizes data centers' interests over grid reliability and customer concerns. Monitoring Analytics' president Joseph Bowring stated that data centers should be the last to lose power when the grid is stressed, as their connection would disrupt existing customers.

The plan is part of PJM's efforts to add suppliers to the grid through a rule change called the Critical Issue Fast Path. The federal agency that oversees grid regulations, FERC, will decide whether the change is lawful and in the public interest.
 
I'm low-key worried about this plan πŸ€”. Data centers need power 24/7, which means they can't be easily shut down or replaced if something goes wrong on the grid 🚨. And if they're generating their own power and feeding it back into the grid, that just means there's more energy at stake when the grid is under stress ⚑️.

I'm not saying it couldn't work, but we need to make sure we're prioritizing grid reliability over the interests of data centers πŸ“ˆ. We can't have them being the last ones to lose power during a grid crisis πŸ€•. And what about the environmental impact? Do we really want more energy sources generating more emissions? πŸŒͺ️

Let's not rush into this without thinking it through πŸ’‘. We need more details and a thorough analysis of how this plan will affect the grid, customers, and the environment πŸ”.
 
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this data center plan 🀯... like, I get it, they need power all the time, but do we really want them generating their own and selling it back? It's a bit weird to me... think about it, what if one of these data centers gets hacked or something and starts causing problems on the grid? We don't even know how reliable their generators are yet... I'm all for innovation, but not at the expense of our safety and infrastructure 🚨. And what about those rising bills for ratepayers? Is this really just going to push that burden onto us even more? I guess we'll have to wait and see how this plays out in practice πŸ’‘
 
πŸ€” This plan sounds like it's trying too hard to appease the data center industry πŸ€‘. I mean, what's really driving this proposal? Is it just about generating more revenue for PJM, or are there genuine concerns about grid reliability? πŸ’‘ The lack of transparency on how states will be reviewing and fast-tracking projects is concerning πŸ“.

I'd love to see some concrete data on how many data centers need power backup, and what the actual costs would be to shore up the grid. πŸ“Š It's easy to say "we want faster approval processes" but what does that even mean in practice? πŸ€” And who gets to decide whether these energy generators meet PJM's reliability standards? πŸ’ͺ

I'm also not sold on the idea of extending or maintaining the current capacity charge βš–οΈ. That just sounds like a fancy way of saying "we're going to keep rates artificially high for customers, while data centers get a sweet deal" πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
 
πŸ€” I'm all about these data centers generating their own power and selling it back to the grid, ya know? It's like, they're basically creating their own renewable energy source 🌞. And think about it, with all those servers humming away, they gotta keep 'em running 24/7, so this fast-track plan is actually a pretty smart move for both the data centers and PJM. Plus, it's got that sweet sauce of incentivizing innovation - who wouldn't wanna invest in some green energy projects? 🌿 But, I do worry about how this is gonna affect our grid reliability... like, what happens when there's a power outage in a major city? Do we really want data centers being the last to lose power? 😬 Still, it's an interesting development, and I'm curious to see how FERC decides on this Critical Issue Fast Path thingy. Guess only time (and some more essays) will tell! πŸ€“
 
Wow 🀯 this idea is so interesting! Like, can you imagine having your own mini power plant next to your data center? It's crazy how much revenue data centers could make if they can just sell back what they're using. And it makes sense that PJM wants more reliable grid, but also gotta consider the customers and stuff πŸ€”
 
I think this plan is kinda genius πŸ€“. Data centers need power 24/7, so if they can generate their own energy, it's a win-win for everyone. They get to save on power costs and PJM gets to bolster the grid reliability. Plus, it'll create jobs and stimulate growth in these states. The only thing I'm worried about is how it'll affect the local permitting processes - we don't want anything to get lost in translation πŸ€”. But overall, I think this is a solid plan that could really help level up our energy infrastructure πŸ’».
 
im not sure if this is a good idea πŸ€”... on one hand, it makes sense for data centers to be able to generate their own power and sell it back to the grid - it could help reduce costs and increase reliability. but on the other hand, i'm worried that states are being too quick to roll out this plan without properly considering the potential impacts on local communities and the environment 🌎... i mean, we've seen enough examples of data centers being built in remote areas with little consideration for the surrounding ecosystem.

and what about the impact on PJM's grid reliability? shouldn't they be prioritizing the needs of their existing customers over the interests of new suppliers? πŸ’‘ it seems like this plan is giving too much power to the states and not enough oversight from FERC πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ... i'm all for innovation, but we need to make sure that this plan doesn't come at the expense of our grid's overall health 🌟
 
πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ I mean, who wouldn't want data centers generating their own power and selling it back to the grid? It's not like they're already sucking up all our energy resources πŸ€‘. But seriously, I'm curious how they plan to balance the interests of data centers with the need for a reliable grid that doesn't leave customers in the dark πŸ’‘. And what's with the 'critical issue fast path' rule change? Sounds like a fancy way of saying 'let data centers do whatever they want' πŸ€”.

I'm also a bit concerned about how this plan will affect local permitting processes and whether states are just going to rubber-stamp everything that comes along πŸ™„. And what's the deal with the capacity charge measure? Is that just a fancy way of saying 'we'll try not to raise your bills too much' πŸ€‘.

It all seems like a bit of a compromise, but I guess that's the nature of policy-making πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. What do you think – are data centers going to be our saviors or our downfall? πŸ’₯
 
I think this proposal is a good start for our country, but we gotta make sure we're not sacrificing grid reliability for the sake of data centers making extra cash πŸ’Έ. I mean, those brief outages can really hurt businesses, so some incentive might be a good thing. But what if we're gonna overload the grid with too many new energy sources? πŸ€” We don't wanna be like them in Europe with their crazy renewable energy mess πŸ˜….

It's also interesting that the states are taking a more active role in fast-tracking these projects, rather than leaving it all to FERC. I guess it's like how my grandma used to say, "Get involved and make things happen" 🌼. We just gotta make sure we're not rushing into anything without thinking about the long-term consequences.

I'm glad some experts are sounding the alarm on this, though. We don't wanna be blindsided by a bunch of new data centers suddenly popping up everywhere πŸš€. It's all about finding that balance between progress and responsibility πŸ’ͺ
 
I'm loving this idea but its gonna be super tricky to implement. They're talkin about data centers gettin' their own power generators, sellin it back to the grid... it's like a win-win, right? But what if the data center is suckin up all the power and leavin nothin for everyone else? We gotta make sure we're not gonna overload the grid.

And then theres the question of how states are gonna review these projects. I mean, they wanna fast track 'em but also keep an eye on things to ensure it's done right. Its like, dont wanna be the one who lets a big ol' data center suck up all the power and leave us in the dark

I'm curious to see what FERC thinks about this proposal... is it gonna be a game changer or a recipe for disaster?
 
idk why these gov ppl think data centers are so special they need a fast track lol just cuz they're makin money from our energy doesn't mean we gotta coddle them πŸ€‘ think about all the other industries that wanna build stuff on public land but can't because of red tape now these governors are tryna cut corners and sacrifice grid reliability for data center profits πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ what's next, gonna let 'em just dig up our water table too? πŸ’§ need more info before i'm convinced this is a good idea
 
so this proposal sounds like it could be a game changer for data centers πŸ€”. I mean, they can basically sell their excess energy back to the grid and break even on investment, which would make sense for them. but at the same time, experts are worried that it might compromise grid reliability... like what if the data center's generator fails? wouldn't that be a problem for other customers on the grid? 🚨 also, I'm not sure about this "fast-track" thing... how do we know that states aren't just letting companies get away with subpar permits and stuff? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ still, I guess it's a step in the right direction to try and make data centers more sustainable... fingers crossed they figure out the kinks! πŸ’‘
 
I'm low-key kinda excited about this whole data center thing, you know? Like, I remember when we were all about progress and innovation back in the day, and now it's like we're finally doing something about our reliance on non-renewable energy sources 🌞. But at the same time, I gotta be real – there's some major red flags here. I mean, are we just gonna let the data center industry run amok without any scrutiny? That sounds kinda sketchy to me πŸ˜’.

And what's with all this talk about 'voluntary' and 'heavily incentivized'? Sounds like a fancy way of saying they're gonna give these companies a free pass to do whatever they want, as long as it profits them πŸ’Έ. I'm not sure if that's really what we want in this day and age. Can't we just have a balanced approach that considers both the industry's needs and the greater good? πŸ€”

I also gotta say, I'm kinda worried about how this is gonna affect our grid reliability. Are we really gonna let data centers be the last ones to lose power when the grid gets stressed? That sounds like a recipe for disaster πŸ”₯. We need to make sure that our energy infrastructure is secure and resilient, not some gamble where companies get to reap the benefits while we suffer the consequences πŸ€•.

Anyway, I guess only time will tell if this plan actually works out. But for now, I'm just gonna keep an eye on it and see how it all plays out ⏱️.
 
😊 I'm so down for this plan! As someone who's been around the block a few times when it comes to data centers 🀯, I know how much power they suck up and how devastating an outage can be for those operators. By giving them a faster path to building their own energy generators, we're not only making their lives easier but also boosting grid reliability πŸ”‹.

I'm loving the idea of states taking a more hands-on approach to expedite permitting and siting for data operations πŸ“ˆ. It's all about streamlining the process so that these companies can get on with it without breaking the bank πŸ’Έ. And let's be real, who doesn't love a good revenue-generating opportunity? πŸ’°

Of course, there are some experts who are raising valid concerns about prioritizing data centers' interests over grid reliability and customer concerns πŸ€”. But I think we can work out those kinks as we move forward. The benefits of this plan far outweigh the risks, in my humble opinion 😊. Bring on the faster approval processes and let's get these data centers humming! πŸ’ͺ
 
πŸ€” "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams." 🌟 I think this plan is a step in the right direction for the data center industry, but we gotta make sure we're not sacrificing grid reliability for profit. πŸ’Έ It's all about finding that balance and making sure customers aren't getting stuck with rising bills. πŸ’° Can't have one without the other, you know? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ "The key is not to prioritize what's on your schedule, but to schedule your priorities." ⏰
 
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