'I almost always play it in hiding, alone': can anyone get into free jazz, history's most maligned music?

Thurston Moore's journey into free jazz began with a tape selection compiled by his friend Byron Coley in the 1980s. Moore had experienced New York's avant-garde jazz loft scene firsthand but felt disconnected from it due to punk and no wave preoccupations at the time. The tapes, which included works by Coltrane, Mingus, Dolphy, Sun Ra, and Monk, led him to this challenging yet rewarding music style.

Free jazz is characterized by its departure from standard rhythms and phrasings, resulting in a uniquely liberating sound that's both unsettling and exhilarating for listeners. Moore describes it as "a music both liberated and yet wholly indebted to the learned techniques of its tradition." He sees parallels between free jazz and noise art rock, where experimentation with open form comes from a deep understanding of musical history.

Despite its history and significance, free jazz remains misunderstood by many due to its association with "noise" or lack of structure. However, this perception is often rooted in the genre's historical context and commercial reception. In the 1960s, major labels and institutions were wary of free jazz, labeling it as noise or nonsense.

Today, however, there are those who celebrate free jazz for its emotional intensity, spontaneity, and exploration of new sonic territories. Moore, Haugland, and others in the music community are working to promote this genre, encouraging listeners to engage with its complexities and beauty.

To get started with free jazz, newcomers like you might find the following albums appealing: Machine Gun by Peter Brรถtzmann Octet or Afrodisiaca by John Tchicai and Cadentia Nova Danica. Both of these works showcase the unpredictability and emotional depth that define this music style.

While exploring free jazz, it's essential to approach each album with an open mind and a willingness to immerse yourself in its complexities. For example, Cecil Taylor's Silent Tongues might initially overwhelm you, but its intricate structure and innovative techniques can reward close listening.

Ultimately, the spirit of free jazz lies in exploration, discovery, and self-expression. As Moore puts it, "the records are the research," and this mindset is essential for fully appreciating the genre's value and significance.
 
idk why people still dont get free jazz lol its like theyre stuck on that one beat ๐ŸŽต i mean come on its like 50 yrs old already but no one seems to have caught on ๐Ÿ˜’ anyway, if ur new to it dont be surprised if u dont know wut hit u r listening to at first its like my cousin tried 2 listen 2 a jazz album by some obscure guy and ended up falling asleep mid song ๐Ÿคฃ but seriously, start w/ machine gun or afrodisiaca, theyre not too bad ๐Ÿ˜œ
 
I'm still trying to wrap my head around how some people view free jazz as just noise lol ๐Ÿ˜‚ I mean, I've had friends who've listened to Cecil Taylor's Silent Tongues and walked away thinking it was just a bunch of weird sounds. But once you take the time to really listen and appreciate the complexity, it's like a whole new world opens up ๐ŸŒ. And I love that Thurston Moore is helping to promote this genre โ€“ he's always been someone who pushes boundaries in his own music, so it's no surprise he'd be drawn to free jazz too ๐ŸŽธ. Have you ever given free jazz a try?
 
I'm loving how Thurston Moore is out there promoting free jazz! It's so refreshing to see someone with his influence pushing boundaries like this ๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ’ฅ I think what's really cool about free jazz is that it's all about experimentation and embracing uncertainty - isn't that just what we need more of in the world right now? ๐Ÿ˜Š And you're right, people often judge free jazz based on its association with noise or lack of structure, but really it's just a different kind of music that requires an open mind. I've been listening to some Cecil Taylor and I'm blown away by his creativity - who knew piano could be so wild? ๐ŸŽน๐Ÿ”ฅ
 
im curious about this whole free jazz thing ๐Ÿค”... sounds kinda like noise to me at first, but apparently its all about exploring new sonic territories & emotional intensity? ๐ŸŽต i mean, thurston moore's journey into it was influenced by his friend byron coley's tape selection in the 80s, which included some crazy legendary jazz musicians like coltrane and sun ra... ๐Ÿคฏ how did they even make music like that back then?

anyway, its good to see people like moore and others promoting this genre & encouraging listeners to engage with its complexities & beauty ๐Ÿ’–... but i gotta ask, what's the deal with all these albums being described as "challenging" or "overwhelming"? ๐Ÿ˜… shouldn't we just enjoy music for fun? ๐ŸŽถ
 
free jazz still sounds like a bunch of weird noise to me ๐Ÿคฏ...like that one song by Cecil Taylor that's just 20 minutes of someone banging on keys - who even listens to that?!? anyway, Thurston Moore might be onto something with this experimental vibe but I'm still gonna stick to my punk rock roots ๐Ÿ’”
 
OMG you guys!! ๐Ÿคฏ I just started diving into this free jazz thing and I'm HOOKED! ๐ŸŽต I mean, I know some people think it's all about noise and not music, but trust me when I say that it's SOOO liberating to listen to something that breaks free from the norm. Thurston Moore's influence is everything right now, he's like the ultimate pioneer of this genre. And have you checked out Machine Gun by Peter Brรถtzmann Octet? ๐Ÿคฏ It's like a wild ride for your ears! The way they blend improvisation with jazz and noise... it's like nothing I've ever heard before. Cecil Taylor's Silent Tongues is another fave, it's all about pushing boundaries and exploring new sounds. I'm obsessed! ๐Ÿ’ฅ
 
๐ŸŽถ๐Ÿ‘€ I just read about Thurston Moore's journey into free jazz and I'm obsessed with how he describes it as liberating yet indebted to tradition ๐Ÿคฏ! It makes total sense to me, especially when you think about noise art rock and experimentation. I mean, who doesn't love a good sonic experiment? ๐Ÿ˜‚ But for real tho, I feel like people still don't get free jazz because they're like "oh it's just too loud/noisy" ๐Ÿ™„. It's all about approachin' it with an open mind, you know? Like, start with some Cecil Taylor and see how that blows your mind ๐Ÿ˜ฒ. And yeah, those Machine Gun and Afrodisiaca albums are a great starting point. I'm def gonna go listen to 'em now ๐ŸŽต
 
I gotta say, I'm intrigued by Thurston Moore's journey into free jazz ๐Ÿค”. His connection to the avant-garde scene in NYC is cool, but I can see why he might've felt disconnected from it at first - punk and no wave were definitely a different vibe ๐Ÿ’ฅ. The tapes curated by Byron Coley must've been eye-opening for him, though.

I'm not gonna lie, free jazz still takes some getting used to for me ๐Ÿ˜…. It's like, I get the emotional intensity and all that, but sometimes it can be super chaotic and hard to follow ๐Ÿ•บ. But at the same time, there's something about the unpredictability of it that's really compelling ๐Ÿ”ฎ.

I'm definitely gonna check out those albums you mentioned - Machine Gun and Afrodisiaca sound like they'd be up my alley ๐ŸŽธ. And yeah, I can imagine Cecil Taylor's Silent Tongues might be a tough listen at first... but maybe that's the point?
 
free jazz is defo a vibe that gets me every time I'm feeling lost ๐ŸŒช๏ธ, like its unpredictable rhythms and sounds can just transport me to another world, you know? i remember listening to Cecil Taylor's Silent Tongues for the first time and being like "wth is this?" ๐Ÿ˜‚ but then after a few listens, i was hooked, and now it's one of my fave albums ever ๐ŸŽต. Thurston Moore's been a big influence on me too - his music's always been all about experimentation and pushing boundaries, which i think is so cool ๐Ÿ’ฅ. anyway, if you're new to free jazz like me, just remember that its not about "noise" or whatever, its about the journey, man ๐Ÿš€
 
Free jazz is like trying to catch a sunset in mid-air - it's all about the journey, not the destination ๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ’ฅ. People often think it's just a bunch of noise, but trust me, there's so much depth and beauty in those improvisational jams. I mean, Thurston Moore's experience with the avant-garde scene must have given him some serious musical chops to appreciate that kind of stuff. The fact that he sees parallels between free jazz and noise art rock is like a match made in heaven - both are all about pushing boundaries and taking risks. And yeah, it might take time to get into it, but once you do, man, the rewards are so worth it ๐ŸŽถ๐Ÿ’•
 
idk why ppl still dont get free jazz lol ๐Ÿ˜‚ it's like they think its just noise but nope! it's a whole different world of sound ๐ŸŒ Thurston Moore's friend Byron Coley compiled these sick tapes back in the 80s that led me to this beautiful madness ๐ŸŽถ. its all about experimentation and pushing boundaries, kinda like noise art rock ๐Ÿค˜. dont @ me if u think its not for u tho, but trust me, machine gun by peter brรถtzmann is lowkey life changing ๐Ÿ’ฅ
 
I just listened to that Cecil Taylor album Silent Tongues ๐Ÿคฏ and I gotta say, it's like someone took all my emotions and put 'em into a blender... not in a good way lol. Seriously though, I love how Thurston Moore is trying to break down the barriers for free jazz newbies, but honestly, some of those albums are still super intense. Has anyone tried listening to Afrodisiaca with headphones on? ๐Ÿ˜…
 
man i just started listening to free jazz and its blowing my mind ๐Ÿคฏ i mean i knew it was gonna be different but wow. like thurston moore said it's all about liberation from traditional norms but also still being deeply rooted in musical history. i love how it makes you feel like you're on a journey with the musician, like they're just winging it and creating something new on the spot. anyone else been down this path? ๐ŸŽธ
 
omg i'm so down for that free jazz vibe ๐Ÿค˜๐ŸŽถ! i mean,thurston moore's been a huge influence on me with his noise rock stuff, but now he's exploring this whole new world of sound and it's giving me LIFE ๐Ÿ’ฅ! the idea that you can create music that's both liberated and still rooted in tradition is so inspiring to me. i love how he's talking about parallels between free jazz and noise art rock - that's like my jam ๐ŸŽธ๐Ÿ‘ i've been meaning to check out machine gun by peter brรถtzmann octet, thanks for the rec! ๐Ÿค“
 
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