US private payrolls unexpectedly declined in November, ADP says

US Job Market Loses Steam as November Payrolls Fall Short of Expectations

A surprise decline in private payrolls in November has cast a cloud over the US job market, according to a report from ADP that revealed a modest decrease of 32,000 jobs last month. This unexpected shift reverses an upwardly revised increase of 47,000 jobs seen in October and runs counter to economists' predictions, which had forecast a rise of just 10,000 jobs.

The ADP employment report, developed in partnership with the Stanford Digital Economy Lab, serves as a proxy for private payrolls, but has historically diverged from the official government count. The discrepancy may be due in part to the ongoing impact of economic uncertainty stemming from tariffs, which has left the labor market in a state of paralysis.

Despite the decline in job creation, first-time applications for state unemployment benefits have remained consistent with the "no hire, no fire" narrative, suggesting that the labor market remains resistant to the effects of recessionary pressures. The ADP report comes on the heels of September's job gains, which saw an addition of 119,000 jobs and led to a four-year high in the unemployment rate at 4.4%.

As the US economy looks ahead to December's closely watched employment report, investors are bracing for more uncertainty. The Bureau of Labor Statistics' November numbers will provide a much-needed gauge on the labor market's health, but the recent government shutdown has raised concerns about data integrity and the reliability of the official count.
 
the gov shutdown is super weird man... i mean, whats going on with these employment reports? one day its all good, next day jobs are down 32k lol... anywayz, doesnt seem like the economy's as bad off as we thought... still some uncertainty tho πŸ€”πŸ’Έ
 
I'm keeping an eye on this job market thing... it's like my kid trying to balance college classes and part-time jobs 🀯. One day they're up, the next day they're down? It's all so unpredictable! I just want to know what's going on with interest rates and how that affects my family's finances πŸ’Έ.

I'm not sure why people keep saying recession is coming... I've got bills to pay, not worries about the economy πŸ€‘. But at the same time, it's hard not to think about it when everything seems so uncertain. Maybe we'll just have to wait and see what happens in December? πŸ“Š
 
it seems like the US job market is having some unexpected volatility πŸ€” - 32k jobs lost last month? that's a big drop! i think this might be due to those tariffs and economic uncertainty... but at the same time, first-time unemployment applications are still steady, so it's not all doom and gloom πŸ’Ό. the fact that the official unemployment rate is still 4.4% shows that people aren't getting laid off left and right... or maybe they're just playing it safe? πŸ€‘ either way, the BLS report in December will be super important to see how things shake out. fingers crossed for accurate data! 🀞
 
I don’t usually comment but I feel like this job market stuff is super confusing 🀯. First one day it's all good jobs, next day everyone's losing their gig? Like what's going on? Tariffs and all that, I get it, but can't the numbers just...line up for once? πŸ“Š And these economists are always predicting something, anyone? It's like trying to guess which way the tea is gonna spill at a party 🍡. The unemployment rate was already kinda high, so now what? Is this recession thing for real? I don't wanna be stuck in some never-ending cycle of job searching πŸ€–.
 
this is weird... they said 32k jobs went down in november but october was 47k up... i thought the job market was doing okay πŸ€”. i remember back in march when the virus hit, everyone lost their jobs and stuff got crazy. now it's like we're seeing a decline? πŸ“‰ is this what they mean by "recessionary pressures" tho? im not sure...
 
Ugh I cant believe this news πŸ€• it feels like just yesterday we were talking about how strong the job market was in the US. now its all downhill 🌎 32k less jobs created? thats not even a blip on the radar. and to make matters worse, no hire no fire is still holding true which means nobody wants to take risks or invest in new employees anymore πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ. this just goes to show that economic uncertainty has really got people spooked πŸ’Έ. i hope the december numbers come out better or else were gonna see a real recession on our hands ⏰
 
Hmm, so like, I'm not surprised that the US job market is cooling down a bit πŸ€”... it seems like there's still some uncertainty going on with those tariffs, right? And I guess economists didn't expect it to be this big of a drop in November - 32k jobs is no joke! πŸ’Έ

I do find it interesting that first-time unemployment claims are still steady though... maybe that's a good sign? 🀞 And yeah, September's job gains were pretty impressive too - now we just have to see how December's report goes down. Will it be a recession or what? πŸ“ˆπŸ’₯
 
ummm... I mean.. this is kinda weird πŸ€”. one minute we're expecting some jobs to be added and the next they're just... gone 😐. i'm not saying it's a big deal or anything, but 32k is still better than nothing, right? πŸ€‘ but at the same time, i get why there are concerns about the official count after that government shutdown 🚫. like, how can we trust what we're seeing? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ anyway, back to november... does anyone know if they'll be revising those expectations πŸ“Š?
 
πŸ€” I'm kinda surprised by this news tbh. I was expecting the job market to keep growing, but it seems like there's still some uncertainty around it. The fact that first-time unemployment apps are still steady despite this decline makes me think that people aren't really feeling the pinch yet πŸ€‘. But at the same time, the economy's got a lot of moving parts and I wouldn't count on anyone predicting what will happen next πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ.
 
omg i dont get why they cant just tell us what really happened with the job market lol did u hear that there was a gov shutdown tho? like how does that even affect the unemployment stats? πŸ€” idk maybe ill look into it more but can someone explain whats going on w/ the ADP report and is it always less accurate than the gov count?
 
πŸ€” I'm kinda surprised by this decline in private payrolls... 32k fewer jobs than expected? That does sound like a letdown for the US job market. But at the same time, it's not all doom and gloom. Those first-time applications for state unemployment benefits are still steady, which suggests that people aren't getting fired left and right just yet. And remember, this ADP report is a bit of a proxy for the real deal, so we should keep that in mind. I'm more worried about the December employment numbers now - will they show a pickup or a slowdown? The government shutdown has got me wondering if there's some data integrity issues going on... πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
 
πŸ€” the job market is all over the place atm, i mean, one month we're seeing 119k jobs added and now this decline of 32k, what's going on? 😬 economists are expecting a recession but not sure if it's happening yet or still just a fear thing. hope the bureau can get its numbers right after that gov shutdown tho πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ
 
πŸ€” im thinking maybe its not as good as it seems? i mean sure the unemployment rate is low but what about all those people who are still struggling to find a job or can't even get hired cuz of the uncertainty in the economy πŸ“‰ it feels like we're just waiting for the other shoe to drop and then were gonna see how messy things really get πŸ’Έ
 
OMG u guys, US job market is like totally tanking 🀯😱! November payrolls dropped 32k jobs?! That's like, way more than expected πŸ’Έ. I'm thinking maybe it's due to those tariffs? I mean, we all know how that affects the economy πŸ€‘. Anywayz, first-time unemployment apps are still pretty steady, so like, labor market is kinda resilient 😐. But seriously, investors are getting all anxious about the December report πŸ“Š. Can't wait 2 c what the BLS numbers bring πŸ€žπŸ‘€
 
omg its like we all knew something was off, right? job market can be so unpredictable 🀯 anyway, maybe its not the end of the world just yet, lets keep an eye on those numbers for december lol
 
I guess it's kinda weird how the US job market was doing so well till now πŸ€”... now it seems like things are slowing down 😐. I mean, 32k fewer jobs than expected? That's a big drop! πŸ’Έ And with the government shutdown and all that uncertainty around tariffs... it makes sense that people would be feeling uncertain about their job security πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ. But at the same time, those first-time unemployment applications are still pretty steady 😐... like, what's going on? Should we be worried or something? πŸ€”
 
πŸ€” just wondering if a decline in private payrolls is a sign that the job market is slowing down before things take a turn for the worse? πŸ“‰
 
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