Quantum Shore developers expect to spend millions on remediation at old South Works site

Quantum Shore Developers Face Scrutiny Over Remediation Plans for Toxic South Works Site

Millions of dollars are expected to be spent by developers on cleaning up a toxic site that will be transformed into a cutting-edge quantum computing campus. Related Midwest and CRG, the companies behind the Quantum Shore Chicago project, have submitted plans to the Illinois Environmental Protection Agency (IEPA) for remediation at the former U.S. Steel South Works plant.

The site has been plagued by environmental concerns since its closure in 1992, with neighbors claiming that toxins and heavy metals like arsenic still linger. While the state agency claims that environmental remediation on the site is complete, the developers' plan has raised questions about whether the site is truly safe for human habitation.

According to the IEPA, a "no further remediation" letter verifies that site investigation and remediation have been completed and meet state cleanup standards. However, concerns remain about the presence of petroleum hydrocarbons, metals, and other isolated substances in soil and groundwater.

The developer's plan includes an engineered barrier around the site to protect air quality and minimize respiratory health risks, as well as excavating and disposing of contaminants in two areas closest to residential zones. The estimated cost of the barrier is $25 million, while the remainder of the development area will cost more than $100 million over the life of the project.

Community organizations are pushing for greater assurances that the site's transformation into a technology hub will benefit the local community. Friends of the Parks and the Coalition for a South Works CBA have called for a commitment to four key benefits: establishing a fund to benefit residents, a framework plan for the Southeast lakefront, full remediation of the land, and ongoing environmental monitoring.

"We need to make sure that the community is not left behind," said Brian Gladstein, executive director of Friends of the Parks. "This is the moment, with this massive development, for us to demand equity on the Southeast Side."
 
๐Ÿ’ก I'm low-key worried about this Quantum Shore project ๐Ÿค”. I mean, they're gonna spend millions on cleaning up a toxic site, but are we really sure that's enough? ๐Ÿค‘ Those petroleum hydrocarbons and metals still lingering in the soil and groundwater... it's not exactly reassuring. And what about the community benefits? ๐Ÿค The execs from Related Midwest and CRG seem pretty confident in their plan, but I think they need to do more to address concerns from neighbors and local orgs. ๐Ÿ’ธ We deserve some real guarantees that this project is gonna bring in positive change for the Southeast Side, not just some fancy tech campus ๐Ÿš€.
 
๐Ÿค” The whole thing seems kinda fishy to me... like, they're saying everything's okay, but I'm not so sure ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ. All those millions of dollars spent on cleanup doesn't necessarily mean it's totally safe for the community. I mean, petroleum hydrocarbons and metals still lingering in the soil? That's a pretty big red flag ๐Ÿšจ. And what about all these promises to benefit local residents? It feels like just another way for developers to buy their way into good favor ๐Ÿ˜’. Can't we have a more transparent process here? Maybe some independent monitoring or community input on how those billions are being spent ๐Ÿ’ธ? Just thinkin' out loud...
 
I think its crazy how these developments can affect ppl's lives... Like, they're tryin to create a quantum computing hub but first they gotta clean up the mess from the old steel plant ๐Ÿค”. Ill be keepin an eye on this situation tho, dont wanna see anyone gettin hurt over this.

Its good that theres people like Brian Gladstein pushin for more benefits for the community. They should def be heard & their concerns should be taken seriously ๐Ÿ’ฌ. And $25 million for an engineered barrier is a pretty big chunk of change... hope its worth it in the end ๐Ÿค‘.

Im all about findin solutions & makin progress, but we gotta make sure every1's benefitting from this growth ๐Ÿ’ช
 
I'm super worried about the Quantum Shore Chicago project ๐Ÿค•. I mean, millions of dollars are being pumped into cleaning up a toxic site? That's awesome on one hand, but what if they're just trying to sweep it under the rug? ๐Ÿ˜’ The fact that community orgs are pushing for more assurances that the site won't harm locals is totally fair play. We need to make sure our city is prioritizing people over profits ๐Ÿ’ธ. Those $100m+ costs don't seem too steep, though... and at least they're trying to mitigate some of the environmental risks with that air-quality barrier ๐ŸŒ†. Still, I'd want to see those 4 key benefits for residents come to fruition ASAP ๐Ÿคž. It's time for our city leaders to prove they're looking out for us, not just lining their pockets ๐Ÿ’ธ๐Ÿ’ธ.
 
omg like what's going on here?! devs are literally spending millions on cleaning up a toxic site but ppl in the community are still worried it's not safe ๐Ÿคฏ๐Ÿ˜ฌ i get why though, like how can u trust that everything is fine just cuz the gov says so? ๐Ÿ˜’ anyway i hope these community orgs get some answers & the devs listen to their concerns ๐Ÿคž๐Ÿ’–
 
man I'm like totally worried about this quantum computing campus in south chicago... $125 million and they're still gonna leave some toxic stuff behind? ๐Ÿ˜ฌ it's like, yeah we get it, tech is cool but our air quality and water shouldn't be messed with. what's the deal with the no further remediation letter tho? is that just a formality or are devs really claiming the site is good to go?

and community orgs got a point about wanting more benefits for local residents... like, we need some guarantees that this development isn't gonna kick us to the curb ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ. full remediation and environmental monitoring would be a start. it's time to make sure our community is part of this massive tech project, not just some afterthought.

anyway gotta wonder what other surprises are in store for south chicago... seems like we're still dealing with the aftermath of u steel's closure back in '92 ๐Ÿคฏ
 
I'm gettin' a bad vibe about this Quantum Shore project ๐Ÿค”. I mean, think back to the old U.S. Steel plant on the South Side... it was always a pollution nightmare, remember? All those years of toxic waste and heavy metals leechin' into the soil and groundwater. It's crazy they're even thinkin' about bringin' in all these new computers and tech companies ๐Ÿค–. What's gonna happen to the community if this development doesn't go through with its promises? I mean, I've seen those community orgs pushin' for more transparency and benefits... it's like we learned nothin' from the South Works site debacle back in the '90s ๐Ÿ˜”.

I hope these developers are thinkin' about the long game here ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธ. We don't wanna be seein' a bunch of fancy new buildings and tech hubs, only to have the community gettin' left behind... again ๐Ÿ˜ž. That $25 million barrier might seem like a small price to pay if it means keepin' those toxins outta the air we breathe ๐Ÿ’จ. But what about the other stuff? The soil remediation costs are gonna be huge ๐Ÿค‘... and I'm not even mentionin' the environmental monitoring aspect... that's just gonna add up, no doubt ๐Ÿ˜ฌ.

We shoulda seen this comin', though... it's like history repeatin' itself ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธ. Remember when the Congress Park Forest Preserve was threatened with all sorts of pollution from those old factories? That whole thing dragged on for years... and in the end, we got a great preserve outta it ๐Ÿ’š... but it was a tough road to get there ๐Ÿ˜ฉ.

Anyway, I hope these developers are listenin' to the community's concerns ๐Ÿ‘‚. We need some real transparency here, not just some slick PR campaigns ๐Ÿ“ข. Can't we just learn from our mistakes and make sure this time around, everyone comes out on top? ๐Ÿ’ช
 
๐Ÿค” I'm all about layout and structure, but this whole thing just feels like a messy patchwork ๐Ÿ› ๏ธ. On one hand, $125 million is a ton of cash, and if it's going towards making the site safer for humans, that's a solid investment ๐Ÿ’ธ. But on the other hand, isn't it weird that the state says the remediation is complete, but community orgs are still pushing for more? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ Like, what's up with all these unanswered questions about petroleum hydrocarbons and stuff? ๐Ÿ˜ฌ And can we talk about how this whole "no further remediation" letter thing feels like a cop-out? ๐Ÿšซ I guess it's just one of those things where you've got to weigh the benefits against the risks. Maybe we'll get some answers soon, but for now, it all just feels kinda... uncertain ๐Ÿคฏ
 
I'm still thinking about the remediation plans for the Quantum Shore Chicago project... ๐Ÿค” I mean, $100 million is a lot of dough and I get that the site was contaminated back in 1992. But don't they think we should've been done with this by now? Like, millions have been spent already and what's with all these additional funds to clean up? It feels like a Band-Aid solution.

And yeah, I'm good for some community benefits too, but not just any old pie-in-the-sky promises. What specific changes will we see? More green spaces? Community centers? Something tangible that the average person can benefit from. And have they even consulted with local residents who actually live nearby?

Also, isn't this whole thing a bit rushed? I mean, if it's safe enough for quantum computing and all that, why can't it be safe for the people living there too? It just doesn't feel right... ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
 
Ugh, I feel like we're still getting our act together when it comes to environmental remediation ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ. I mean, it's great that these developers are willing to put in millions of dollars to clean up a toxic site, but what about the long-term effects on the community? Like, are they really gonna make sure that these new "quantum computing campuses" bring some real benefits to the people living nearby? ๐Ÿค” And what about all those concerns about petroleum hydrocarbons and metals in the soil and groundwater? Can we really trust that this barrier is gonna do the trick? ๐Ÿ’ธ It's like, I get it, tech advancements are cool and all, but let's not forget about the human impact, you know? ๐Ÿ™ And can't they just commit to some real equity for the community instead of just slapping together a framework plan? ๐Ÿค‘
 
๐Ÿค” I mean, can't believe how much money is being poured into cleaning up that toxic site. $125 million just for the cleanup alone? It's crazy! ๐Ÿ˜ฑ And now they're trying to turn it into some fancy quantum computing campus? It feels like a double standard to me - we should be focusing on fixing the problems that already exist, not just slapping a new coat of paint on them ๐Ÿ–Œ๏ธ. I get why the community is pushing for more guarantees that this project will benefit them, though. We need to make sure everyone's at the table and getting a fair shot ๐Ÿ’ผ.
 
๐Ÿค” I'm telling you, something fishy is going down here. These devs are gonna clean up the site, but what about all the 'benefits' they're supposed to give to the community? It's a total PR stunt. They're just trying to quiet us down so we won't ask questions. And $25 million for an engineered barrier? That's like pennies on the dollar compared to the real cost of the project. I bet that money could be going straight into the pockets of their investors, not the people who actually live around here. We need more than just a 'framework plan' for the lakefront - we need some real, concrete changes. And what about all those toxic substances in the soil and groundwater? Are they gonna make us all drink from the lake to get rid of them too? ๐Ÿšฝ It's like they're trying to play us for fools.
 
I mean, can you believe it? Toxic sites turning into fancy quantum computing campuses... like we're gonna make up for all the pollution by making it super cool?

But seriously, $125 million is a whole lotta cash just to clean up a site. I guess when you're talking about cutting-edge tech and 'quantum' this and that, it's hard to keep costs down.

And honestly, who knows what's safe and not safe anymore? The gov's got its "no further remediation" letter, but I'm like, "What does that even mean?" It sounds like a bunch of corporate-speak to me.

Community groups are pushing for more benefits for the local people. That's cool, I guess. I'd be all about getting some cash back from big companies when they're making bank off our pollution problems.

It's just weird that we get to pay for the cleanup so we can have a shiny new tech hub. Like, what happened to holding corporations accountable? Just saying...
 
๐Ÿค” I'm low-key worried about this remediation plan, you feel? ๐ŸŒก๏ธ According to the IEPA's report, 73% of the site still has elevated levels of petroleum hydrocarbons in the soil and groundwater ๐Ÿ˜ท. That's a major red flag for me! And let's talk about those costs - $125 million is a ton of dough ๐Ÿ’ธ. I'm all for quantum computing and innovation, but we gotta make sure our communities are getting some serious returns on their investments ๐Ÿค‘.

Here's a graph showing the total cost of remediation:
<img src="remediation_costs.png" width="500" height="300">

According to a study published in 2022, the average return on investment for urban renewal projects is around 10% ๐Ÿ”ฅ. We need to see some serious guarantees that this project will bring real benefits to the local community ๐Ÿค.

Here's an infographic highlighting the concerns:
<img src="site_investigation_results.png" width="800" height="400">

I think it's time for a more transparent and inclusive planning process ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ. We need to make sure that our communities are at the table, making decisions about their own future ๐Ÿ“….
 
I mean, it's crazy how long it's been since that U.S. Steel plant closed down back in 1992... ๐Ÿคฏ I was just thinking about my old man talking about the "good ol' days" when he used to take me by that lakefront and we'd have picnics, but then there were all these weird smells coming from the plant, and nobody wanted to hang out no more. ๐Ÿ˜’ Now they wanna build a fancy quantum computing campus on top of it... like, isn't that just gonna stir up more problems? ๐Ÿค” Those community organizations are right though - we need to make sure our people get some benefits outta this deal. I remember when my grandma used to complain about the pollution from the plant, and now her grandkids are all grown up with kids of their own... it's like, can't we just do this thing right for once? ๐Ÿ˜”
 
I'm telling you, this whole thing is a classic example of "big box" politics ๐Ÿ“ฆ. You got these developers, related Midwest and CRG, trying to push through their plans without really thinking about the long-term benefits for the community. I mean, $125 million over 10 years is a pretty sweet deal for a bunch of new tech jobs, but what about the residents who are already living in a toxic neighborhood? ๐Ÿค”

And don't even get me started on the "no further remediation" letter from the IEPA. That's just a fancy way of saying they're not really sure if it's safe or not ๐Ÿ’ธ. I mean, we've seen this movie before - big corporations cutting corners to save money while leaving a trail of environmental damage in their wake.

The community organizations are right to push for more assurances that the site will benefit the local community, but we need to be careful not to get caught up in partisan politics ๐Ÿค. It's all about finding common ground and making sure that everyone comes out on top. Can't have a bunch of greedy developers and well-meaning activists at odds over this one ๐Ÿ’ช. We need to find a solution that works for everyone, not just the few.
 
I gotta say, I'm all about seeing this Quantum Shore project move forward, but we need to make sure these remediation plans are 100% solid ๐Ÿค”. $125 million is a crazy amount of cash, and while it's great that the developers are willing to shell out for an engineered barrier, we can't just ignore the other toxic stuff still lurking around. I mean, what's the point of having all this fancy tech if we're still gonna have to deal with environmental nightmares? And those community groups are right on point about needing some serious assurances that the local residents will get a fair shot at the benefits ๐Ÿค‘. We need to make sure the developers are doing their due diligence and not just pushing the problems under the rug. The state's "no further remediation" letter just doesn't cut it, if you ask me ๐Ÿ˜’.
 
๐Ÿค” This is crazy! Like, billions are being spent to clean up a toxic site that's been messed up since like 1992 ๐Ÿšฎ๐Ÿ’€. I mean, I get it, quantum computing campuses and all that jazz ๐Ÿ’ป, but come on! Can't they just prioritize the people who have been living next door to this disaster zone for decades? It's not like they're asking for a lot, just some real answers about what's going to happen to their community ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ. And $100 million?! That's just a drop in the bucket compared to all the toxic stuff that needs to be taken out of there ๐Ÿ’ธ. I'm glad people are pushing back and demanding more from these developers ๐Ÿ‘Š
 
Its really frustrating when a big project like this comes along and everyone gets caught up in the hype, but what about the people who actually live nearby? They're the ones who have to deal with the toxic soil and air quality issues every day. I get that the developers want to create a state-of-the-art quantum computing campus, but can't they make sure it doesn't come at the expense of our health and safety?

I think its great that community organizations are pushing for more assurances that this project will benefit the local community, like establishing a fund to help residents or ensuring full remediation of the land. We need to make sure that the people who have been affected by environmental issues aren't left behind in this massive development. ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ’š
 
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