Referees at Manchester United and Brentford got heat but there is much to learn from the decisions | Chris Foy

Two high-profile fixtures at the weekend sparked intense debate about refereeing decisions. The Manchester United v Brighton and Brentford v Liverpool games were marred by incidents that provided valuable lessons in understanding why match officials make certain calls.

One incident at Old Trafford saw Patrick Dorgu given a yellow card for fouling Yankuba Minteh, who was through on goal. The phrase "last man" often comes to mind in such situations, but it's essential to remember that being the last defender doesn't automatically warrant a red card. Instead, the referee must consider factors like distance from goal, possession of the ball by the attacking player, direction of travel, and the number of covering defenders.

In this case, the likelihood of Minteh gaining possession was low, as Senne Lammens, the goalkeeper, would have been able to pick up the rolling ball. As such, the referee's decision to award a yellow card for unsporting behavior stood, as Dorgu had knocked the ball out of bounds.

Another incident at Old Trafford involved Luke Shaw and Georginio Rutter in the buildup to United's third goal. Shaw appeared to cause Rutter to lose control by grabbing his shirt, but it was essential to note that the contact was minimal and fleeting. The referee, Anthony Taylor, correctly allowed play to continue, as sustained holding would have warranted a penalty.

In this instance, the Video Assistant Referee (VAR) system came into play, reviewing the incident as part of the attacking phase of play (APP). The VAR checked for any potential handball or simulation and ultimately ruled that Shaw's actions did not warrant a foul. Meanwhile, Bryan Mbeumo scored at the end of the move, ensuring that the goal stood.

Moving on to Brentford v Liverpool, there was much discussion about penalty decisions. Cody Gakpo's attempt to deceive the referee into awarding a penalty for simulation after a near-foul by Nathan Collins sparked debate. While some argued that Gakpo's actions were theatrical and warranted a yellow card, others believed that play should have continued.

A crucial aspect of refereeing in such situations is understanding the nuances of simulation and contact. In this instance, while there was slight contact, it was deemed minimal. Awarding a yellow card for simulation would be understandable, but in hindsight, it's unlikely that anyone would argue against Taylor's initial decision not to intervene.

Lastly, the game also saw an incident involving Virgil van Dijk and Dango Ouattara, which brought into focus the process of VAR and penalties. The new rules introduced a narrower window for reviewing APPs, with referees increasingly relying on clear and obvious errors rather than subjective assessments.

In this instance, referee Tim Robinson correctly identified Van Dijk's foul as falling inside the penalty area. By explaining that the incident occurred within the designated penalty zone, Robinson didn't require further review from VAR; it was a straightforward factual decision. This highlights the importance of clear communication in refereeing and the need for officials to be confident in their decisions.

Ultimately, these incidents serve as valuable lessons in understanding why match officials make certain calls. They demonstrate the complexity and nuance involved in refereeing high-pressure fixtures like Manchester United v Brighton and Brentford v Liverpool, where every decision can have significant consequences on the outcome of the game.
 
the whole prem v brighton/liv game felt super unpredictable ๐Ÿคฏ i mean you gotta give it to brentford though, beat two of englands top teams at home? ๐Ÿ™Œ but refs gotta keep it in perspective, sometimes a yellow for unsporting behavior is the right call even if it feels harsh ๐Ÿ’›
 
I think it's time refs got a brain trust ๐Ÿค“! I mean, come on, those guys are like referees on autopilot sometimes ๐Ÿ™„. Like, Patrick Dorgu gets a yellow for "unsporting behavior" but no one says squat about the goalkeeper just standing there like a statue ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. And what's with Shaw grabbing Rutter's shirt and it's barely even contact? I guess if you're gonna get a penalty, you gotta really grab someone's shirt ๐Ÿ˜‚. But seriously, VAR needs to be more accurate or at least give refs some actual guidance instead of just nodding along ๐Ÿ™.
 
man I was really annoyed with those ref decisions ๐Ÿคฏ especially with that one at Old Trafford where Patrick Dorgu gets a yellow card for unsporting behavior when it's clear he didn't even touch the ball ๐Ÿ™„ but you gotta respect the refs trying to make calls in split seconds, it's not easy ๐Ÿ˜… and btw I think VAR is still a work in progress ๐Ÿ‘€ we need more clarity on those new rules about penalties and APPs ๐Ÿค”
 
I'm loving this refereeing drama ๐Ÿ’โ€โ™‚๏ธ๐Ÿคฃ! Like, Patrick Dorgu gets a yellow card for unsporting behavior and everyone's all "what about the last man?" ๐Ÿค” But honestly, can't we just let the refs make those calls? It's like, my aunt's friend's brother's hairdresser could tell you that if your friend tries to pull your shirt, it's not a red card. ๐Ÿ˜‚ The VAR system is always coming in handy, though - I mean, who wouldn't want to review some contact and see if it was just a tiny little tap? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

And omg, Brentford v Liverpool had me on the edge of my seat with all those penalty decisions ๐Ÿค‘ Cody Gakpo's simulation attempt was like, "haha nope, not buying it" ๐Ÿ˜‚ And then Van Dijk's foul... yeah, I think we can all agree that was a pretty clear one โšฝ๏ธ. The new VAR rules are definitely making things more interesting, though - like, who needs subjective assessments when you have clear and obvious errors? ๐Ÿ™ƒ It's just crazy to see how much pressure referees are under in these high-stakes games... but hey, at least they're getting some practice in for the World Cup ๐ŸŽ‰
 
๐Ÿค” so i think referees need to be more aware of the little things when they make a call, you know? it's not just about reacting to the big stuff, but also paying attention to the details that can make or break a game. like in the brentford vs liverpool match, the referee was right to keep an eye on simon's movement, 'cause if he had been trying to deceive him, it could've easily gone the other way and changed the whole game ๐Ÿšจ๐Ÿ‘€
 
I dont think the refs had it easy lol ๐Ÿคฃ. Both games were wild and anyone couldve been wrong ๐Ÿ˜‚. I mean Patrick Dorgu got a yellow for fouling Minteh but like you said, was it really unsporting behavior? It's all about context, right? And Shaw grabbing Rutter's shirt was so minimal, I woulda given the benefit of the doubt too ๐Ÿ‘. The VAR system is super important in these situations tho ๐Ÿค. I liked how Robinson just explained the decision and didn't overthink it ๐Ÿ™. The new rules for VAR make sense, like only reviewing if its clear & obvious errors ๐Ÿ“ˆ. Referees need to have confidence in their decisions and communicate clearly โšฝ๏ธ. Its all about nuance and understanding what's going on during those intense moments ๐Ÿ˜ฌ.
 
I'm telling you, something's off with those refs... ๐Ÿค” Like, what's going on at Old Trafford? That Patrick Dorgu gets a yellow card for unsporting behavior, but it's like the ref was sleepwalking or something! ๐Ÿ›‹๏ธ The guy didn't even touch the ball, he just lost his footing. And that Shaw-Rutter incident? Minimal contact, if you ask me... ๐Ÿ˜ But nope, the VAR system comes in and somehow says it's okay to keep playing. I mean, what's the point of having VAR if they're just gonna let ref Taylor make up his mind at the end of the day?

And don't even get me started on Brentford v Liverpool. Penalty decisions? Come on! It's like Cody Gakpo is trying to pull a fast one on the ref... ๐Ÿค‘ I'm not saying he didn't commit a foul, but awarding a yellow card for simulation? That's just weird. And what about Van Dijk getting a clear red card? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ Now that was a straightforward decision.

I swear, football's rigged or something... ๐Ÿคช The refs are just making it up as they go along. Or maybe I'm just missing the forest for the trees... ๐ŸŒณ Either way, I'll keep watching and waiting for someone to drop a real bombshell. ๐Ÿ’ฅ
 
๐Ÿค” I was thinking about this, it's crazy how much emphasis is put on refereeing decisions these days ๐Ÿ™ƒ especially with all the VAR and VAR reviews. It feels like there's a huge burden on the refs to get every single call right ๐Ÿ˜ฌ they're human after all, mistakes are gonna happen. But at the same time, it's not rocket science, just common sense and understanding of the game. Like I was watching that Man U vs Brighton game and Patrick Dorgu got booked for unsporting behavior ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ I get why he did what he did, but I don't think a yellow card is necessary in this case. And with all the VAR reviews, it's easy to overthink things. The refs need to trust their instincts more and not second-guess themselves too much ๐Ÿ’ญ
 
man... thinkin' about this stuff makes me wonder what's really goin' through those refs' minds ๐Ÿค”. it's not just about seein' red or yellow cards, it's about weighin' all these variables and makin' split-second decisions that can change the course of a game โฐ. and then you gotta consider the VAR system too - it's like tryin' to solve a puzzle while the pieces are still gettin' shuffled around ๐Ÿคฏ. what's the right balance between allowin' play to continue and stoppin' it when there's been contact? it's like that old sayin', 'the devil is in the details'... and these refs gotta be super careful with those details ๐Ÿ‘€
 
the way refs just throw in yellow cards or pens without thinking it through is wild ๐Ÿคฏ. i mean i get that "last man" doesn't always mean red card but it's like they need to consider all factors before making a decision. and what's with these new rules where var only reviews for clear errors? i think it's still too subjective ๐Ÿค”
 
๐Ÿค” u gotta think about it from the ref's perspective too... its not just about making split second decisions but also understanding the game & all the factors involved ๐ŸŸ๏ธ i mean, yeah, some calls are obvious but others require a lot more thought ๐Ÿ˜ฉ especially with these new rules about VAR & penalties... its all about clear comms & confidence in ur own decisions ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™‚๏ธ
 
I don't know about the other ref, but I think they did alright ๐Ÿ‘. I mean, it's not easy calling out fouls in high-intensity games like that. And yeah, VAR can be useful, but sometimes it feels like it's more of a crutch than a help. Like, the Liverpool v Brentford game was crazy, and I felt like they were doing too much checking with VAR instead of trusting their own eyes ๐Ÿ‘€. But I guess it's better than having no VAR at all ๐Ÿ˜. What really gets me is how some people are already hating on the refs and the system before the games even start ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. It's like, chill out, guys. We don't know what we'd be missing if they just didn't do it ๐Ÿ‘Œ.
 
i think it's wild how VAR is still figuring out its own rules ๐Ÿคฏ like with Van Dijk's foul, why did they need to explain it so much? shouldn't be that hard for refs to know if something's in the box or not lol. and on Brentford v Liverpool, i feel like that yellow card for Gakpo was a bit harsh, but at least he wasn't trying to deceive the ref by feigning injury ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ
 
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